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    AmP Countdown: Time left to demand that Congress make health care reform pro-life: 2009-11-07 18:00:00 GMT-05:00

    Monday, October 20, 2008

    Biden claim: "I'm a John XXIII guy, I'm not a Pope John Paul guy."

    I don't understand how someone can seriously say this about themselves:

    "I was raised as a Catholic, I'm a practicing Catholic, and I'm totally at home with the Catholicism that I was raised in and this whole culture of social responsibility, reaction to abuse of power, the whole notion that there is collective civic responsibility. It's the Catholic consciousness that I'm totally comfortable with."

    ... only to spew this nonsense:

    "It is not choice. It's always a very, very, very difficult, difficult decision. I know that, my church has wrestled with this for 2,000 years.

    We've always believed from the outset that abortion is wrong. But throughout the years, debated the degree to which it is wrong. There are always cases where it is never a first choice. It is always viewed as a dire decision. But throughout the church's history, we've argued between whether or not it is wrong in every circumstance and the degree of wrong. Catholics have this notion, it's almost a gradation.

    We have mortal sins, venial sins, well, up until Pius IX, there were times when we said, 'Look, there are circumstances in which it's wrong but it is not damnation. Along came Pius IX in the 1860s and declared in fine doctrine, this was the first time that it occurred that it was absolute human life and being at the moment of conception. It's always been a debate."

    And then conclude by saying:
    "I take my religion very seriously."
    (... just obviously not enough to study it.)

    Oh well, I guess I'm just no Joe Biden.

    Another jem:
    "I'm a John XXIII guy, I'm not a Pope John Paul guy."
    At least that puts him ahead of John Kerry, who claimed he was a "Pope Pius XXIII" kind of guy.
    Ph/t: Whispers.

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